The Conversation I Avoided With Myself

In this episode of The Who Am I? Podcast, Jeff Hopgood explores the powerful and honest question: What conversation have I been avoiding with myself?

This episode is about self-reflection, emotional honesty, healing, identity, and learning how to stop pretending you are okay when something inside of you needs attention.

If you have been functioning but not healing, showing up for everyone else while losing yourself, or avoiding the truth because it feels uncomfortable, this episode will help you pause, reflect, and refocus.

Have you ever avoided the one conversation that could finally set you free?

In this episode of The Who Am I? Podcast, Jeff Hopgood talks about the conversation many people avoid having with themselves — the honest conversation about pain, healing, fear, purpose, identity, and the version of ourselves we keep hiding from.

Sometimes we say, “I’m good,” when we are not.
Sometimes we stay busy so we do not have to feel.
Sometimes we wear strength as a mask.
Sometimes we keep functioning, but we are not really healing.

This episode invites listeners to slow down and ask:

What conversation have I been avoiding with myself?

Through reflection, encouragement, and honest conversation, this episode explores why we avoid the truth, how old wounds shape our patterns, why we abandon ourselves for acceptance, and how healing begins when we stop running from what needs our attention.

You cannot heal what you keep hiding.
You cannot change what you keep excusing.
And you cannot fully become who you are called to be while avoiding the truth inside of you.

This episode is for anyone who feels tired, stuck, emotionally overwhelmed, disconnected from themselves, or ready to begin the journey back to who they really are.

Transcript

Welcome And A Real Check-In

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Hello everyone, welcome back to the Who and My Podcast where we pause, reflect, and refocus. But before we get started, allow me to check on you really quick. Not the kind where you ask yourself, did I respond to that text? Did I pay that bill? Did I finish that assignment? Did I show up for work? Did I take care of everybody else? No. I'm talking about a real check. A check on your mental status. The time where you stop for just a moment and ask yourself, how am I really doing? Not how do I look, not how do I sound, not what do people think about me. Not what am I pretending to be okay with. But how am I really doing? Because sometimes we get so used to functioning that we confuse functioning with being fine. We get up, we get dressed, we go to work, we answer phone calls, we take care of responsibilities, we encourage everybody else. We smile when people walk by. We say, I'm good. Just because it is easier than explaining why we are not. But just because you are moving does not mean you are healed. Just because you are busy does not mean you are whole. Just because you are smiling does not mean you're okay. So before we get into this episode, I want you to take a breath, a real one. Breathe in. And ask yourself, what conversations have I been avoiding with myself? Maybe it is the conversation about your pain, about your anger, maybe it's the conversation about that relationship you keep trying to act like did not change. Maybe it's the conversation about your dreams or your calling. Maybe it's the conversation about the version of you that keeps showing up for everybody else while slowly disappearing from yourself. Maybe it's the conversation about how tired you are, how lonely you feel even when people are around. Maybe it's the conversation about how you are tired of being strong, but you do not know who you are without strength being your identity. So today is not about beating yourself up. Today is not about blaming yourself. Today is not about living in regret. Today is about honesty. Because there is a conversation you have been affording, and it may be the very conversation that helps you find your way back to yourself. See, some of us are not lost because we do not know where we are. We are lost because we have not been honest about where we are. We keep telling people I'm fine, but deep down we know that is not the whole truth. We keep saying it is what it is when really it hurt us more than we want to admit. We keep saying I moved on, but every time something reminds us of it, we realize we only moved around it. We keep saying I don't care when the truth is we cared so much that pretending not to care became our protection. And sometimes the hardest person to be honest with is not your family. It is not your friends, not your spouse, not your coworkers. Sometimes the hardest person to be honest with is yourself because being honest with yourself means you may have to admit something needs to change. It means you may have to stop blaming everybody else and look at your own patterns. It may mean that you have to admit you are hurt. You may have to admit you are tired, you may have to admit you are not the same person you used to be. It may mean you may have to admit that one, that what once worked for you is now weighing you down. And see, that is a hard conversation. That really is. But let me tell you something. Avoid the avoided conversations do not disappear. The avoided conversations do not disappear. They just get louder in other areas of your life. They show up in your attitudes, your relationships, your silence, your overthinking, your exhaustion, um, even the way you push people away. They show up the way you settle, the way you settle for different things. They show up in ways you keep going back to things that keep breaking you. So today we are going to talk about the conversations I avoided with myself, not just as an idea, but as a mirror. Because maybe the reasons you have been feeling disconnected is not because you lost yourself all at once. Maybe you lost yourself one avoided conversation at a time. So let's lean into it. No judgment, no shame, no pretending, just honesty. Because on the Who Am I podcast, we do not come here just to sound it. We come here to change, we come here to pause long enough to hear what we have been ignoring. We are here to reflect on what shaped us, and we come here to refocus on who we are becoming. So today's question is simple, but it's not easy. It's simple, but it is not easy. What is the conversation you have been avoiding with yourself? Let's talk about it. Because sometimes we avoid the conversations because we already know the truth. So I think this is a good point to start right here. Because sometimes we avoided the conversations with ourselves because deep down we already know the truth. We know when something is not healthy, we know when we are forcing something, we know when we are settling, we know when we are tired, we know when we are giving more than we have, when we are being used, when we are saying yes out of fear, when we are staying somewhere because we are afraid of starting over, and when we are not operating in true purpose. See, we know, and that is why we avoided the conversation. Because once you tell yourself the truth, you become responsible for what you do next. That is the part we do not always like. We want clarity without responsibility, we want healing without honesty, we want peace without confrontation, we want change without discomfort. But there are some things in your life that will not shift until you are honest enough to say, this is not working for me anymore. This is hurting me, this is draining me, this is not who I am, this is not who I signed up to be. This is not where I belong, this is not the life I want to keep living. And that does not mean you have to make a dramatic decision overnight. It doesn't. It does not mean you have to cut everybody off, it does not mean you have to have everything figured out by tomorrow, but it does mean this you have to

Truth Creates Responsibility

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stop lying to yourself because self-deception is expensive. Self-deception is expensive. And the reason why it's expensive is because it costs you peace, it costs you energy, it costs you your confidence, your identity, your time, and sometimes it costs you the version of yourself you were supposed to become. See, there are people listening right now who have been calling something patient, but it is really fear. You have been calling something loyalty, but it is really attachment, something humility, but it is really low self-worth. You have been calling something waiting on the right time, but it is really procrastination. You have been calling something, I'm just being nice, but it is really people pleasing. And the conversations you have been avoiding is this. Why am I allowing this to continue? Not in a condemning way, not in a shameful way, but in a truthful way. Because you cannot heal what you refuse to name. Do y'all remember how many times I've even explained that? You cannot heal what you refuse to name, and you cannot change what you keep excusing. You cannot grow. You cannot grow from what you will not confront. So the first part of this conversation is truth, not the filter truth, not the public truth, not the truth you tell people so they do not worry about you. The real truth, the private truth, the truth that comes when the room is quiet and you cannot distract yourself of it anymore. That is where healing truly begins. That is where the truth begins, and that is where healing truly begins, because the truth comes out when the room is quiet, and you cannot distract yourself anymore. So this is something we also do, we avoid ourselves because we are afraid of what we might feel. We avoid ourselves because we are afraid of what we might feel.

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How can I say this? And it's because of this. Honesty has feelings attached to it.

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Yeah, we'll start there. Honesty has feelings attached to it. Sometimes when you finally tell yourself the truth, you feel sadness. Sometimes you feel anger, you feel regret, you feel embarrassed, you feel grief, you feel relief. And for some of us, feeling is scary. Feeling is scary because we have trained ourselves to keep moving. We say things like, I do not have time to cry, I do not have time to break down, I do not have time to think about that, I have too much to do, I have too many people depending on me, so we push it down. We laugh it off, we work through it, we pray over it, we pray over it, but never process it. We shout over it, but never sit with it. We stay busy, so we do not have to be still. And I want to say this carefully. Faith is powerful, prayer is necessary, worship is healing, but sometimes we use spiritual language, that spiritual lingo to avoid emotional honesty. How many of y'all heard the phrase, I'm blessed, but never admit I'm hurting? So, yeah, oftentimes we say I'm blessed, but

When Feelings Feel Too Risky

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we never admit the truth that I'm hurting. We say God got me, but never admit I am tired. We say no weapon formed against me shall prosper, but never admit the weapon still wounded me. And yes, God has you, you are blessed, you are covered, but you are also human. And being human means sometimes you have to sit with what you feel long enough to understand what it is trying to tell you. You cannot keep bleeding and call it strength. You cannot keep ignoring your pain and call it faith. You cannot keep carrying everybody else and call it purpose. Sometimes, sometimes the most spiritual thing you can do is be honest. God is not intimidated by your honesty. He already knows. He knows the pain behind the smile, he knows the fear behind the decision, he knows the tears you held back, he knows the prayers you did not know how to word. He knows the part of you that keeps saying, Lord, I believe, but help my unbelief. So maybe the conversation you have been avoiding sounds like this. I am not okay. I am disappointed, I am grieving, I am angry, I'm scared, I need rest, I need help, I miss who I used to be. I do not know who I am right now. That does not make you weak, my friend. That makes you honest. And honesty is not the opposite of faith. Sometimes honesty is the doorway that allow faith to work in the places that we keep hiding. See, we often avoid the conversations because we do not want to confront our patterns. Now, this is where it gets a little bit heavier, okay? So just bear with me on this one. Don't, don't, don't tune out, don't go to another channel, but just just stick with me real quick, okay? Because sometimes the conversation we avoid is not about what somebody did to us. It is about what we keep repeating, it is about our patterns, it is about the cycles, the cycles we keep entering. It is about the red flags we keep painting green. It is about the way we keep closing familiar pain over unfamiliar peace. And that is a real thing. That really is. Because sometimes peace feels strange when chaos is what raised you. Sometimes healthy love feels suspicious when inconsistency is what you are used to. Sometimes rest feels lazy when survival taught you to keep moving. Sometimes boundaries, boundaries feel selfish when people pleasing made you feel valuable. So when something healthy comes into your life, you may not know how to receive it. You may question it, you may sabotage it, you may push it away, not because it is bad, but because it is unfamiliar. And that is a conversation worth having with yourself. So just ask yourself, ask yourself this. Why do I keep choosing what hurts me? Why do I feel guilty when I rest? Why do I struggle to receive love when performing without performing? Why do I struggle to receive love without performing for it? Why do I apologize for having needs? Why do I keep trying to prove myself to people

Patterns That Keep Repeating

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who already decided not to see me? And finally, finally, why do I run back to what I prayed to be delivered from? See, that is not an easy conversation, but it is, however, necessary. It's necessary because your patterns are often louder than your intentions. You can intend to heal, but still choose what reopens the wound. You can intend to grow but still avoid accountability. You can intend to change, but still surround yourself with people who benefit from the old you. You can intend to move forward, but still keep one hand on the past. And here's the truth, my friend. You cannot become a new version of yourself while staying loyal to the old patterns that keep destroying you. There comes a point in life where you have to stop asking, why does this keep happening to me? And start asking, what am I participating in? That is not blame, that is awareness. There is a difference. There is a difference because blame says it is all my fault. Awareness says, this may not have started with me, but I am responsible. I'm responsible for what I do with it now. See, that phrase is so powerful because when you become aware, you get your power back. You get your power back. You stop living on autopilot, you stop saying this is just how I am. You stop using your pain as a permanent address. You stop letting, you stop letting your past make decisions for your future, and you start saying this. You start saying this. I may have learned this in survival, but I do not have to carry it into my purpose. I may have been hurt there, but I do not have to keep bleeding here. I may have been rejected then, but I do not have to keep abandoning myself now. See, that is what the conversation does. It reveals the patterns, and once the patterns are revealed, you can begin to break it. So let's talk about the mask we wear that can become a prison. The mask we wear can become a prison. Because many people are not just avoiding the conversation, they are hiding behind a version of themselves they created to survive. See, some people hide behind humor. They are always joking, always laughing, always making everybody else feel good. But when they go home, they are exhausted. Some people hide behind success. They keep achieving, keep producing, keep building, because as long as they are accomplishing something, nobody asks if they are okay. Some people hide behind strength, they become the reliable one, the strong one, the one everybody calls, the one everybody leans on, but they never give themselves permission to need anybody. Some people hide behind faith, but they know the scriptures, they know the songs, they know how to encourage everybody else, but privately, privately they are struggling to believe that God still sees them. Some people hide behind silence. They do not argue, they do not explain, they do not open up, they just disappear emotionally and call it peace. But it is not peace, it is protection. And I understand protection. Sometimes the mask was necessary. Sometimes you had to be strong because weakness was not safe. Sometimes you had to be quiet because your voice was not welcome. Sometimes you had to laugh because crying would have

The Mask That Becomes A Prison

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broken you. Sometimes you had to perform because love felt conditional. Sometimes you had to be independent because depending on people kept disappointing you. But hear me and hear me clearly. What protected you in one season can imprison you in another. The version of you that helped you survive, that helped you survive, may not be the version of you that helps you heal. And at some point, you have to ask yourself. You have to ask yourself, who am I beneath the mask? Who am I when I am not performing? Who am I when I am not approving? Who am I when I am not needed? Who am I when I am not being strong? When I am not trying to make everybody proud when I am not hiding behind beyond good. See, that is the heart of this podcast. Who am I? Not who did life force me to become, not who did the pain teach me to be. Not who do people expect me to be, but who am I really? Who am I really? Because sometimes the journey back to yourself begins when you admit I do not want to keep pretending, I do not want to pretend I am. Okay, when I am not. I do not want to pretend I am happy in places that drains me. I do not want to pretend I do not care when I do. I do not want to pretend I am strong all the time. I do not want to pretend I am satisfied with a life that does not feel like mine. And that kind of honesty can, it can be scary, but it can also be the beginning of freedom. Because the mass may have helped you survive, but the truth, the truth will help you live. So you have to stop abandoning yourself to be accepted by others. This is another part of the conversation. Because once again, some of us have been avoiding the truth that we keep abandoning ourselves for acceptance. We say yes when our soul is saying no. We say we stay quiet. We stay quiet when something in us is begging us to speak. We shrink ourselves so others' people feel comfortable. We hide our dreams because we are afraid people will laugh. We act like we do not need support because we do not want to be a burden. We keep relationships alive that are killing us inside. We keep showing up for people who never show up for us. And finally, we keep giving pieces of ourselves away, hoping somebody will finally say, You are enough. But listen, you do not have, you do not have to abandon yourself to prove your value. See, when you have spent years, when you have spent years trying to be accepted, because sometimes acceptance becomes addictive, you start craving approval more than peace. You

Stop Abandoning Yourself For Acceptance

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start measuring your worth by who chooses you. You start thinking rejection means you are not valuable. But rejection does not always mean you are not valuable. Sometimes rejection is protection, rejection is redirection, sometimes rejection is God saying that room was too small for who I created you to be. And sometimes people did not reject you, they rejected the version of you they could no longer control. That is why you have to stop abandoning yourself because every time you betray your truth to be accepted by someone else, you teach yourself that your voice does not matter. And allow me to remind you, your voice does matter. Your needs matter, your boundaries matter, your healing matters, your peace matters, your calling matters, your identity matters. So maybe the conversation you have been avoiding is why do I keep choosing people over me? Why do I feel guilty for having boundaries? Why am I afraid to disappoint people who keep disappointing me? Why do I think love requires losing myself? See, that is a real conversation, and it may hurt at first, but it will help you come home to yourself because you cannot fully answer who am I while constantly becoming who everybody else needs you to be. So the conversation may require this one word, forgiveness. So and not just forgiving other people, not just forgiving other people, sometimes it is forgiving yourself. We're getting heavy right now. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to forgive yourself because some of us are still punishing ourselves for what we did not know. We are still carrying shame from a season when we were doing the best we could with the tools we had. We are still mad at ourselves for staying too long, for trusting the wrong people, for missing the signs, for not speaking up, for giving too much, for giving too much, for losing too much time, for walking away too late, for not walking away sooner, for being young, for being afraid, for being broken, for being human. But I need you to hear this clearly. You cannot heal while constantly attacking the version of you that was trying to survive. That version of you may have made mistakes, but that version of you also kept you alive. That version of you got you through. That version of you endured what some people do not even know about. That version of you may not have had all, all of the wisdom you have now, but

Forgiving Yourself To Move Forward

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they had enough strength to make it to today. So instead of looking back with shame, maybe today you can look back with compassion. Maybe you can say, I did not know then what I know now. I made choices from pain, but I am learning to choose from peace. I stayed too long, but I finally left. I lost myself, but I am finding myself again. I forgive myself for surviving the only way I knew how. That is powerful, my friend, because forgiveness does not erase the past, it doesn't. It releases your agreement to keep being punished by it. And some of you have already been forgiven by God, but you have not forgiven yourself. God has already released you, but you keep replaying it. God has already covered it, but you keep uncovering it. God has already called you forward, but you keep standing in the same place saying, I should have known better. Maybe you should have, maybe you could have, but now you do know better. Now you do know better. So the question is not just why did I do that then? The question is, what will I do with what I know now? That is growth, that is maturity, that is healing. You are not who you were when you made the mistake. You are not who you were when you accepted the loss, when you did not know your worth, when you were trying to survive. So stop holding the current version of you hostage. Stop holding the current version of you hostage to a past version of you that was still learning. Have the conversation, feel it, own it, learn from it, and then release it. Release it. So let's talk brief about the conversation, is not just about what hurt you, it is about who you are becoming. See, this is important, I believe. I believe this is important. See, the conversations you avoided with yourself is not only about pain, it is also about purpose. Because sometimes, sometimes we avoid the conversations because we know there is more in us. We know we are called to something greater, we know we are supposed to start, we know we are supposed to write, to speak, to build, to heal, to lead, to change. But stepping into purpose means leaving the comfort of excuses. And excuses can feel safe. Excuses like I'm not ready, I don't have enough, I don't know enough. People won't support me. What if I fail? What if they judge me? What if I start and nobody cares? But let me ask you this. What if you never start and spend the rest of your life wondering what could have happened? What if the thing you are afraid to begin is connected to the people you are called to help? What if your story is not just for you? What if your healing becomes somebody else's hope? What if the version of you on the other side of obedience is waiting for you to stop negotiating with fear? Sometimes the conversation you are avoiding is not what hurt me. Sometimes it is, what am I afraid to become?

Purpose Hiding Behind Fear

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That is deep. Because becoming requires responsibility. Becoming requires discipline, courage. Becoming requires letting go of the identity that kept you comfortable. And sometimes people would rather stay familiar than become free. But not you. Not after today. Today, you have to ask yourself, what is God calling me into that I keep delaying? What gift am I sitting on? What dream did I bury because life got hard? What step have I been avoiding? What version of me keeps knocking, asking to be released? Because there is more to you, not because you are not enough, but because you are still becoming. And who you are becoming deserves your participation. You cannot keep asking God to open doors while refusing to walk toward them. You cannot keep asking for change while protecting the habits that keep you stuck. You cannot keep asking for clarity, my friend, while ignoring the instructions you have already received. And at some point, at some point, the conversation becomes, I know what I need to do. Now what? Now what? You have to have the conversation with yourself. So let's talk about how do we have the conversation with ourselves that we have been avoiding. So first, first you have to create a space. Not noise, not distractions, not scrolling, not another show, not another task, but space. Space must be created. See, sometimes you need to sit in silence for 10 minutes and let your soul catch up with your body. Sometimes you need to journal, sometimes you need to pray out loud. Sometimes you need to take a walk. Sometimes you need to talk to a counselor, a mentor, a pastor, or someone safe. But you need space because your inner life cannot heal if it is always being interrupted.

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Second. Ask honest questions.

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Not questions that let you hide. Ask questions that tells the truth. Questions like, what am I pretending not to know? What am I tired of carrying? What am I afraid will happen if I change? What do I keep going back to and why? What do I need that I have been afraid to admit? What boundaries do I need to set? What part of me needs attention? What am I grieving? What am I becoming? Thirdly, do not just judge the answer too quickly. Sometimes when the truth comes up, we try to silence it. We say, I should not feel that way. I should be over this by now, I should be

How To Start The Conversation

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stronger. No. You do not have to act on every emotion, but you do need to understand what it is revealing. Fourth, take one step, not 10, not the whole staircase, just one. One step. Make the phone call, set the boundaries, rest, apologize, forgive. Start the project in the cycle. Ask for help if you have to. Tell the truth. One step. Be transformational. And I say that because of this. Be transformational because transformation is not always loud. Sometimes transformation sounds like this. I am done pretending. I need to heal. I am choosing peace. I am ready to grow. I am coming back to myself. And finally, invite God into the conversation. Not the religious version where you say all the right words. The real version. God, I am tired. I am confused. I am hurting. I need wisdom. Show me me. That is powerful. God, show me me. Show me my heart. Show me my patterns, my pains, my wounds, my motives, my insecurities, my purpose. Show me what I keep missing. Show me what I need to release. Show me who I am becoming. Because when God shows you you, He does not do it to shame you. He does it, however, to free you. So I want you to think about that one conversation. And this is where we pause and reflect for a moment. Think about that one conversation. The one you keep pushing away, um, the one that keeps showing up in your thoughts, the one that keeps showing up when you're alone, the one that makes your chest feel heavy. The one that keeps whispering in your ear, you know, this needs your attention. What is it? Is it about your healing? Is it about your relationships? Is it about your grief, your purpose, your self-worth, your faith, your frustration, your past? Is it about the fact that you are tired of being the strong one? Whatever it is, do not run from it today. You do not have to solve it all today. You do not have to solve it all today. You do not have to solve it all today. But you can acknowledge it. You can say, I see it now, I hear it now, I am ready to be honest. And that is where the shift will begin. So as we get ready to close this out, I want to leave you with this. I want to leave you with something. The conversations you are avoiding may be uncomfortable, but it may also be the conversation that saves you. It may save your peace, it may save your identity, your relationships, your purpose, your future. Because you cannot keep living disconnected from yourself and expect to feel whole. You cannot keep hiding from the truth and expect to walk in freedom. You cannot keep wearing the mask and expect to breathe. You cannot keep abandoning yourself and expect to know who you are at some point. At some point, you have to sit down with yourself and say, let's be honest. And when you do, do not be surprised if tears come out. That's okay. Do not be surprised if clarity comes. Do not be surprised if conviction comes. Do not be surprised if courage comes. Do not be surprised if God begins to show you things you were too busy to see before. Because the truth is not there to destroy you. The truth is there to deliver you. And the truth is there to make you free. And maybe today. Today is the day you stop running from the conversations. Maybe today is the day you stop pretending. Maybe today is the day you stop saying I'm good when you know you need help. Maybe today is the day you stop calling survival peace. Maybe

Challenge And Closing Affirmation

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today is the day you stop shrinking. Maybe today is the day you stop punishing yourself. Maybe today is the day you stop waiting for permission to become who God called you to be. Because the real you, the real you is still in there. Under the pressure, under the pain, under the disappointment, under the responsibilities, underneath the mask, under the survival mode, the real you is still there. And maybe this conversation is not the end. Maybe it is the beginning, the beginning of healing, the beginning of honesty, the beginning of freedom, the beginning of coming back home to yourself. So here is your challenge this week. Take 10 minutes, just ten. No phone, no distraction, no pretending. Sit with yourself and ask, what conversation have I been avoiding with myself? Then write down whatever comes up. Do not edit it, do not judge it, do not run from it, just let the truth speak. Because the truth may hurt for a moment, but pretending can hurt for years. And you deserve more than pretending. You deserve peace, you deserve healing, you deserve wholeness, you deserve to know who you are without the mask. You deserve to meet the version of yourself, the version of yourself that has been waiting on the other side of honesty. So this has been the Who in My Podcast, and I am your host, Jeff Hopgood, reminding you to pause, reflect, and refocus. And before you go, I want you to remember this. You owe everybody else a version, a version of you, but you owe yourself the truth. Do not avoid the conversation that could set you free. So before we move forward, I want you to pause for just a moment. Take a breath. Wherever you are, and whatever you're carrying, this next part is for you. Let's speak life over ourselves out loud if you can. Because what we say in this moment has the power to shift how we walk into the rest of our days. So let's begin with our affirmation. I am not defined by my past or limited by my mistakes. I am growing, learning, and becoming who I was created to be. I have values beyond titles, roles, and expectations. I choose honesty over fear and growth over confidence. I am allowed to change, heal, and evolve. I walk with purpose, clarity, and courage. I am becoming more aligned with my true self every day. And who I am is enough. So as we close today's episode, I want to thank you for taking this time for yourself. If something you heard inspired you, challenged you, or made you pause and reflect, please, please don't keep it to yourself. Share this episode with someone who may need it. Invite them into the conversation. See, this podcast grows when we grow together. I cannot do this without you. See, we grow together through shared stories, honest reflections, and real connections. Every listen, every share, every conversation helps create a community. A community rooted in purpose, rooted in love, rooted in hope, rooted in faith, rooted in trust and truth. So until next time, keep reflecting, keep becoming, and remember, you matter. This is the Who Am I Podcast. And let's walk this journey together.